Friday, November 21, 2014

End of Book: Fishbowl 11/21


Fishbowl 11/21
  • "Maybe the combine wasn't all-powerful."(Molly's page 292)
    • gain confidence
    • McM: martyr to combine
      • was it worth it for him to die? was his life worth it?
      • men never in danger: just to lose personality, but McM suffers 
        • dangers= lobotomy, shock
        • worthy sacrifice
        • wakes up men  
  • Did McM know the consequences?
    • resigned to the fact that he is going to stick up for the change he wants in the men
    • Jesus: last supper
  • Billy Bibbit not studder= confidence, but when he started talking to the Nurse- he stutters
    • she takes away his confidence(intimidating)
    • death= inevitable
  • Nurse symbolizes romans, pharisees, and combine
    • Enemy is combine!!
  • Doctor and black boy: pharisees
  • Jesus
    • pays for sins of others, and to save us
      • McM dies to save sins of society
      • sacrificing himself for others
      • Molly's page 304, page 318 for others
    • Betrayal: men say he's winning, talking behind his back(let Nurse change their mind: they doubted him)
  • McM purposely provokes fights: racial stereotypes, disrespects 
  • Japanese Nurse: understands them, sympathetic, understands being persecuted, feminine
    • The black boys are bitter
  • Harding: Molly's page 294, everyone's page 307/308
    • shame: difference 
    • homosexual: can't satisfy wife
    • he's intelligent: more feminine(hands)
    • not stereotypical American man
    • tries to conform
      • makes him sick, the way he feels
      • doesn't feel worth, fear, self-belittlement
      • covers up who he is (wife)
    • his hands vs. McM's hands
      • feminine, masculine
    • this is his coming out moment
    • picked up by wife when he checks out: what happens?
    • be more comfortable when he left: going back into society w/ new confidence
  • Misidentification of men
    • what makes someone mentally ill?
      • society creates craziness
    • most patients there voluntarily: Nurse manipulates them emotionally and psychologically
    • Nurse belittles them: not good for them, she should make them feel better(makes them more sick)
    • Video and pre-question: is everyone mentally ill?
      • worse thing to do to a mentally ill is force
    • Nurse Ratched had very negative effect
    • McM helps them more: everyone gets better: teaches them how to come out of fog
    • Nurse: oppression, makes them feel worthless
    • put in there by society
      • Nurse enforces this
      • McM teaches them how to be proud of who they are
    • Chief says thank you 
  • Killing of McM
    • only body there: already dead
    • knew McM wouldn't want that
    • didn't want to give Nurse that satisfaction
    • is it murder?
    • expression is the same when he is murdered
    • Is it ok?
      • doing him a favor
      • repaying him: thank you 
      • if he didn't: the nurse would've won
  • pg 277 (290): Chief talks
  • hypocrisy: put down for imperfections
    • everyone has imperfections
      • Nurse conceals that she is a woman
      • Catholic Nurse: birthmark
    • everyone is different
    • insecurity: take it out on others 
  • Why does Bibbit kill himself?
  • left on their own will: gained courage and confidence
    • McM was uplifting figure that they never had
  • McM and patients win
    • change ward forever












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